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Re: Trailer concession

Postby ShaveIce² » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:00 pm

Use a smaller block. Hatsuyuki blocks are known to do this when you use too large of a ice
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Re: Trailer concession

Postby Mulan » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:42 pm

IceClouds wrote:In my area no one sold ice blocks so we ended up buying a commercial ice block maker as making ice in a traditional freezer took way to long (3-5 days) where now i can make 60 10lb ice blocks in 12hours. Good luck!


Do you have one ice block maker or two? I've looked into it but so far can only find one manufacturer with a 35-40 block capacity in a single tank. Can you send me some details on where you got your machine from/specs/cost?

Thank you!

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Re: Trailer concession

Postby IceClouds » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:19 pm

We just have one. We bought the Clinebell S-60 http://clinebellequipment.com/clinebell/s-series-27/ looks like it goes for $6,300 for just the molding unit brand new. ours also included the refrigeration sytem which is another 3-5k. We got lucky and found a distributor that was going out of business and sold us their machine for cheap.

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Re: Trailer concession

Postby Mulan » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:51 pm

IceClouds wrote:We just have one. We bought the Clinebell S-60 http://clinebellequipment.com/clinebell/s-series-27/ looks like it goes for $6,300 for just the molding unit brand new. ours also included the refrigeration sytem which is another 3-5k. We got lucky and found a distributor that was going out of business and sold us their machine for cheap.


Lucky indeed! Thank you for the info!

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Re: Trailer concession

Postby Betablues2 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:24 pm

Ruff84 wrote:I received my shaver and supplies from Southern Snow the other day and am in the process of making three ice blocks with different types of water. Tap, my filtered fridge water and all spring water bought from the store. What should I look for to make sure it is a decent quality ice when I take it out of the freezer? I will be testing all three when I practice shaving ice tonight, so i am just talking about visually.

I was making simple syrup last night and decided to boil it. 2 qts 6oz of water + 6 lbs of sugar which is suppose to make 1 gal of simple syrup (went with southern snow directions)

Boiled the sugar, water, and the preservatives for 3 minutes. When it was all said and done I had 3/4 of a gallon of syrup. I am assuming some of the fluid boiled away. Is this normal or should I have added some water before boiling to make up for that loss. I assumed that's the reason for the slightly sweeter taste of boiled syrup compared to just sugar and water that some people make.

I plan on making a batch tonight without boiling and comparing the taste.

Did I miss anything so far when making the syrup?


Late response. You don't boiling your preservative? You add it when it reaches room temperature. And you really don't need to boil your syrup. I think you'll find out that there is not much difference between warm and boiled syrup, plus it saves a lot of prep time. How did it turn out? We use 10 cups to 5 lbs for a Gallon. 6 was too sweet for me and from my customer feedback when we first opened.

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Re: Trailer concession

Postby Loopdan » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:48 pm

Betablues2 wrote: We use 10 cups to 5 lbs for a Gallon. 6 was too sweet for me and from my customer feedback when we first opened.


6 lbs of sugar to a finished gallon of simple syrup is crazy sweet. I've always heard 5 lbs was recommended (see below). But even this is too sweet for me. I use 4 gallons of water plus 25 lbs sugar, which makes roughly 6 gallons of simple syrup. So I'm at 4.17 lbs of sugar per finished gallon of syrup.

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Re: Trailer concession

Postby Loopdan » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:01 pm

Betablues2 wrote: And you really don't need to boil your syrup. I think you'll find out that there is not much difference between warm and boiled syrup, plus it saves a lot of prep time.


Some will argue that boiling simple syrup will break sucrose into two sugars: glucose and fructose. Theoretically this should give the simple syrup a more complex taste, but the time it takes to break down sucrose with heat is considerable. You can also aid the reaction using a catalyst like citric acid, but it would take far more than the .25oz recommended per gallon.

Still, the benefits of boiling simple syrup are:
1) Easier to dissolve the sugar.
2) More shelf-stable end product.

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Re: Trailer concession

Postby BruceSannino » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:10 pm

You're on your way up in the shave(d) ice bizz Ruff. Up Up Up.

You can run your 115 volt shaver and any other AC appliance, freezer, air-conditioning, lights, fans, etc from a battery.

There are two types of electricity, alternating current, AC is the kind you get from the wall socket in your house and direct current, DC is the kind you get from a battery. They are NOT, NOT, NOT interchangable.

To use DC current (battery) to run AC, (wall plug) appliances you have to change the DC current to AC current. You make that change by running the DC current through an appliance called an inverter. You connect the battery to one side of the inverter and and your appliance to the other side. What goes in is DC and what comes out is AC.

Think of the electricity in the battery as a volume of water stored in a tank. In fact a battery is often refered to as a "storage battery", it stores electricity. Now think of the water in that tank flowing out of the tank through a pipe and turning a water wheel. When you run out of water in the storage tank the wheel stops turning. In calculating how long the wheel will turn you measure how much water is in the tank and how big the wheel is. This analogy is quite accurate. If your battery is only turning one wheel and that wheel is relatively small, (a shaver) your battery will last a long time. If you're turning a bunch of wheels or a big wheel, (water heater, air-conditioning and or freezer compressor) you will run out of water pretty fast. The whole thing really is as simple as that. You will need some help calculating how big a tank, (battery) you're going to need to turn the wheels you want to turn and how big the pipes, (wire) is going to have to be. Also advising you on switches and circuit protection, (pressure relief valves). All of this is simple and off the shelf at the home store.

You can run your 12 volt shaver straight off the battery. No sweat. You could run heavy loads like a freezer or air-conditioning off a battery bank but it takes so much battery capacity that it's utterly impractical. You would need two trailers, one for your stand and one for the batteries.

I hope this helps you make informed decisions.

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Re: Trailer concession

Postby Hawaiian Delight » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:22 pm

Very helpful! Thank you for your share.


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